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[攝影發問] CMOS 定 CCD

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發表於 2011-10-17 12:48:01 |
發表於 2011-10-17 12:51:21 |
回覆 水晶晶 的帖子

謝謝大大無私ㄉ分享,讓我對攝影知識又增長了不少.
發表於 2011-10-17 12:51:30 |
本帖最後由 dswhkg 於 2011-10-17 18:17 編輯
定風波 發表於 2011-10-15 11:23
數碼機既SENSOR,有分COMS 同 CCD 兩種,
請問CHING兩種有乜分別, 應該點揀呢?


In the DSLR market, everyone change to CCD, I don't think you have choice....

Shortly speaking:
CCD is better in picture quality;
CMOS is better in high ISO noise performance, and most importan, it is cheaper

Edited
"In the DSLR market, everyone change to CCD"
should be "In the DSLR market, everyone change to CMOS", the oppositive meaning... haha
發表於 2011-10-17 12:55:11 |
dswhkg 發表於 2011-10-17 12:51
In the DSLR market, everyone change to CCD, I don't think you have choice....

Shortly speaking:

簡單兼清楚
發表於 2011-10-17 13:31:52 |
dswhkg 發表於 2011-10-17 12:48
I don't agree on the saying of this paper....

歡迎賜教!

                               
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發表於 2011-10-17 23:07:15 |
回覆 劉晶晶 的帖子

I'm not expert on the sensor, but just not match with my understanding.

Most of the info described in the paper was true, but it was the situation at around 2004, when Canon 300D was released, with a CMOS sensor.
At that time, all DSLR use CCD and only low-end consumer device (e.g. mobile phones) use CMOS.

Now, CMOS wins CCD not only in noise performance, but also better dynamic range etc.
And, most important is: you don't have choice! All of the camera manufactures turn to use CMOS. You can hardly find any camera using CCD now.

發表於 2011-10-17 23:25:35 |
本帖最後由 dswhkg 於 2011-10-17 23:27 編輯

回覆 劉晶晶 的帖子

Why CMOS is better now?

1) Cheaper: CMOS use the same production line and equipments as other IC/chips product.

2) CMOS consumes less power, thus generate fewer noise (power -> heat -> noise).
  The mirrorless camera cannot use CCD, because keeps on switch-on the sensor in order to show the live-view, the CCD will become too heat and too noisy.

3) Additional electronic circuit can be built inside the CMOS sensor (while CCD is a pure photon-to-charge conversion device).  
That give a LOT of flexibility to the sensor design, e.g.:
  - additional NR circuit can build inside the sensor, so a preliminary level NR can be implemented inside the sensor, before the signal is sent out (this is what Nikon D3 did, so someone found the RAW of D3 seems had been gone through some NR)
  - In Nikon-1 system, a phase differential AF circuit is build insider the sensor, thus allow Nikon-1 focus very quickly, mirror nor translucent glass is not needed.
發表於 2011-10-17 23:44:29 |
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 樓主| 發表於 2011-10-18 00:14:03 |
cmos越來越popular似乎系事實。
canon sx30系用ccd, 新出sx40都轉埋cmos
據云同sony停止開發ccd都有關
發表於 2011-10-18 07:18:07 |
CCD/CMOS我都用過,個人覺得CCD發色靚D

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