轉載: 古機今看 - Quad ESL-57

江交樂

auraheart 發表於 2013-10-26 21:24

                               
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I had a Thorens TD 124 with SME 3012 tone arm...born in 57.  It was a good year for hi fi ! {:183: ...

TD-124+SME 3012(12吋唱臂)吾易玩得好

柒喜

auraheart 發表於 2013-10-26 01:16

                               
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"丈部分" ? What is that?

打錯字，應該是大部分至啱，我見ebay折算後都只係幾千蚊港幣，當年個廣告只是五十二英磅

柒喜

auraheart 發表於 2013-10-26 02:17

                               
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If I needed a turntable now, I would buy a used direct drive (quartz lock or not, not important),  ...

我去聴別人玩既唱盤大都好很貴，而且佢哋都係唱盤和CD並存

柒喜

江交樂 發表於 2013-10-26 20:36

                               
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1957年另一經典喇叭是JBL "aragon"

我只係陣煐光度見過，個次見咁得意想叫佢開聲見識下，條友話壞左一邊聲，見佢咁大支野就無再問究竟

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柒喜 發表於 2013-10-26 21:37

                               
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我去聴別人玩既唱盤大都好很貴，而且佢哋都係唱盤和CD並存

因為CD軟件多,我平日都以聽CD為主

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柒喜 發表於 2013-10-26 21:42

                               
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我只係陣煐光度見過，個次見咁得意想叫佢開聲見識下，條友話壞左一邊聲，見佢咁大支野就無再問究竟

教父高屋企有對,呢對喇叭屬空前絕後之作,
1957年售價達5700元,夠買半層樓
它的一體化立體聲設計史無前例,必定要環境遷就它
是對"難玩得好"的喇叭,比大屏風更難服侍

江交樂

JBL Paragon用鈷磁單元,中音單元"乃號角之皇"375"
今天只一對狀態良好的375(連Horn咀)叫價可達廿多萬元
低音單元LE 15,

auraheart

江交樂 發表於 2013-10-26 21:25

                               
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TD-124+SME 3012(12吋唱臂)吾易玩得好

It is fun, I had two great teachers when I was young.  That was the 70s.  Quad ESL 57 was the hardest..a bit hard to tri-amp, not easy to find matching sub..and so on.  That Thorens wasn't bad.  We installed into a wooden custom cabinet (or base)..fun !  It was a long cabinet, TT on left and empty space occupy about 75% reserved to store most frequently played albums.

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-26 21:42

                               
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我只係陣煐光度見過，個次見咁得意想叫佢開聲見識下，條友話壞左一邊聲，見佢咁大支野就無再問究竟

It is like a one piece furniture, if I remember correctly.  Had a chance to listen to it at my friend's record store,(maybe 1976) Chinatwon, SF...Some old man just didn't want it and sold it very cheap, maybe a few hundred bucks...(probably didn't know or didn't care) My friend owned a high end stereo store about 4 or 5 years later.

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-26 21:34

                               
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打錯字，應該是大部分至啱，我見ebay折算後都只係幾千蚊港幣，當年個廣告只是五十二英磅

I wouldn't buy Quad speakers from Ebay.  Hard to burn a Quad with higher power.  What happen is each time when overload.. it "ARC" (spelling?) the speaker.  The ESL still would sound, and takes less maximum power, and so on....until it is dead.  Never happened to me with the Bedini 25/25..    I would assume that Quad's used market is narrow...Quad users know hi fi in general.  Why I mention original here a few times.  Better chance to tell if it has been "arc" or not...hehe.

補充內容 (2013-10-27 00:30):
I hardly ever bought used speakers and carts, for various of reasons.  They both don't last if not handle right.

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-26 21:37

                               
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我去聴別人玩既唱盤大都好很貴，而且佢哋都係唱盤和CD並存

Too many wealthy folks in HK...My hi fi friends and I were/are usually poor, and we had to do things the hard way.  Instead of spending a lot, just for the sake of owning them, we learn and listen with heart, even now, we still do.  That is all we can do with limited financial resources, haha.  

newpatpat

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-25 12:01

                               
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其實玩得靜電都應知Ohm數會經常跌到1 Ohm，如果水塘細既就死梗

敢一般既 Amp 咪妤難推, 可能連 KRELL 都唔掂.

江交樂

NAIM合拼擴音機成功推動MAGNEPAN屏風

柒喜

江交樂 發表於 2013-10-29 17:23

                               
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NAIM合拼擴音機成功推動MAGNEPAN屏風

Naim是極之音樂感既功放，但要佢推Mag有點過份，尤其是個四十周

柒喜

newpatpat 發表於 2013-10-29 15:25

                               
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敢一般既 Amp 咪妤難推, 可能連 KRELL 都唔掂.

舊版本既KRELL聲底比較粗獷，1ohm雖難不到佢，但聲音有機會更粗鞋

auraheart

newpatpat 發表於 2013-10-29 15:25

                               
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敢一般既 Amp 咪妤難推, 可能連 KRELL 都唔掂.

Not that hard, we did quad, mag, acoustat, dayton wright, and others.  They don't reach 1 ohm that often..should worry about moisture more in HK could  發毛..even dust...or roaches haha..or even conductive stuff .  Climate of HK is not the greatest...  humid..I have not seen sound lab speakers around for sometime, they pretty good...outta business?  Mr. Gooseling knows about sound lab speakers?...what are your thoughts? hehe..It was one on my wanted speakers list, lol...but never owned..

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-29 18:13

                               
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Naim是極之音樂感既功放，但要佢推Mag有點過份，尤其是個四十周

Low power amp can drive it...even my Bedini 25 watt amp lol...
I bet you the old Pioneer M21 can drive it, only 25 watts Well build though...2 cows, 33,000uf X 4 Caps and pure class A.

柒喜

auraheart 發表於 2013-10-30 01:27

                               
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Low power amp can drive it...even my Bedini 25 watt amp lol...
I bet you the old Pioneer M21 can d ...

細火數的確推得郁Mag，但要四十周既低頻表演提升至另一層次還需力士

auraheart

柒喜 發表於 2013-10-30 05:16

                               
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細火數的確推得郁Mag，但要四十周既低頻表演提升至另一層次還需力士

四十周既低頻? from a panel? hehe....I would forget it without a sub..lol..
Full range needs a 100 watts or so, with good current output..panel witout a sub kinda sucks..
Those 6, or 8 screens models really sucks for positioning...better struck with the inexpensive mag 1.7 and a sub.

柒喜

auraheart 發表於 2013-10-30 05:19

                               
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四十周既低頻? from a panel? hehe....I would forget it without a sub..lol..
Full range needs a 100  ...

Wendell Diller話係大多數既環境，1.6係可以出到35-40Hz至少