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本帖最後由 b2323234 於 2014-3-24 15:34 編輯

各位大大,唔好意思,上次的TASTEVINE可能講的唔太清楚
其實Tastevine唔係一個酒莊或品牌而係一個品質認證
有好多出名的DOMAINE都有拿過他們我LABEL,例如LEROY, PONSOT, BOUCHARD, PIERRE ANDRE, FAIVELEY.......... 等等
小弟有幸去了他們的香港聚會才知有這樣的認證, 他們由百多元的BOURGOGNE到大約一千元的CORTON, CLOS DE VOUGEOT都有, 這LABEL只代表那酒莊在那年份OUTSTANDING和有那年份和地區代表性才可以拿到, 但這些認證的酒好像不易在一般酒鋪找到(最起碼我未見過).
個人認為品質係好好,而且不太貴.
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發表於 2014-3-24 15:05:18 | 顯示全部樓層
OIC, 原來是一個認証
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發表於 2014-3-24 15:54:17 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2014-3-24 20:02:47 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 fokker 於 2014-3-25 00:32 編輯

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Look at the photo of the so-called panel judges and " Chevaliers" and you could see what I mean in my previous posts about this conferee business and their chevaliers being very sure of themselves.

http://141hongkong.com/forum.php ... d%3D1132&page=3

Since you went to one of their events, did you find the same experience as I did? That they kept singing their anthem and rotating the fists whilst singing?

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發表於 2014-3-24 20:13:13 | 顯示全部樓層
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多謝澄清及補充資料~~~
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發表於 2014-3-24 22:29:29 | 顯示全部樓層
呢隻酒飲得過喎!
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發表於 2014-3-24 23:15:06 | 顯示全部樓層
Where to look for the wine with this credential ? Is it popular now ?
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發表於 2014-3-24 23:45:13 | 顯示全部樓層
必須接受一群專家的認證。
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發表於 2014-3-25 00:31:16 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 fokker 於 2014-3-25 09:18 編輯

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You don' t and cannot look for it. You can browse through wineshops and may run into it, as this label is assigned to a certain wine from a certain vintage sumitted by a winemaker and this particular wine is judged by this panel to be good enough quality to carry this label. So, even the same wine made by the same winemaker from different vintages would not automatically get this label, for 2 reasons: first the wine from a different vintage might be of inferior quality and failed to get the endorsement; second, the winemaker simply does not submit the wine from a different vintage. Why does a winemaker does not submit the same wine from a different vintage? Well, a romantic way to think of it is that the winemaker does not feel that vintage is of good enough quality to get the endorsement, hence he passed on submitting.
But  another harsh reality is that if the winemaker has made a genuinely good wine and has achieved good reputation and ratings from wine critics for successive years in a row and has no problem selling his wines, why would he bother to go through this process? As I already indicated, you ever seen a DRC with such label? Or a Roumier, Leflaive, Ramonet or Mugnier?
As mentioned above, the negociant Moillard has done this before and I could easily understand why. They are actually a good firm and I have enjoyed their wines a lot, but they are not really at the pinnacle of the Burgundy game. Honestly, have you heard of them? I actually visited their flagship store in Nuit-Saint-Georges some 20 years ago and they welcomed walk-in visitors without prior appointments, for tastings, which a lot of the bigger names would never allow. They have a lot of old wines in store; I remember seeing some 1949 Chambertins and 47 Cortons. You know what that means--that means they have trouble selling. They were good wines but not many people in Europe at the time would fork out 1500 French Francs to purchase them, as there is no guarantee of quality for a Burgundy of such an advance age, esp. for a negociant bottling.
So what do you do? You send it to the Conferee and hopefully get this stamp of approval in order to sell.

Ponsot, in the past, would send their wines to the Conferee as one of the senior Ponsots from era bygone was the major of Morey-Saint-Denis and also a grand judge ih the panel. I have not seen their wines with such a label in the past 20 years as now the name Ponsot equates superlative quality. Try your hardest and save up enough to locate their Clos de la Roche veille vignes 1985 and you will taste one of the best Burgundies ever made on Earth.
I have seen/drunk a Leroy with the tastevin label, but that was a negociant white capsuled village level wine, for which I suspect she or her managers had trouble selling for the asking price. Nevertheless, that particular wine was good for a village wine, to give the panel their due credit.

Just think, why some of the prettiest girls in HK would never compete in the Miss Hong Kong pageant?
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 樓主| 發表於 2014-3-25 11:20:33 | 顯示全部樓層
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la la la la la la one? and shaking the hand? if that one, yes, i love it
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發表於 2014-3-25 20:30:17 | 顯示全部樓層

Yeah, that one, and you have to do it zillion times during the dinner. What a way to self-congratulate and self-gratify.  Delusions of Grandeur and really looks like masturbation.
I can see why you enjoyed it.
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發表於 2014-3-25 22:39:24 | 顯示全部樓層
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Thanks for the enlightenment.You are such a knowledgeable friend !
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發表於 2014-3-25 22:57:04 | 顯示全部樓層
b2323234 發表於 2014-3-24 14:53
各位大大,唔好意思,上次的TASTEVINE可能講的唔太清楚
其實Tastevine唔係一個酒莊或品牌而係一個品質認證
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原來有沙紙!
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發表於 2014-3-27 19:37:41 | 顯示全部樓層
多謝澄清
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