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Arsenal's thin squad is a myth / What we lack as a team
By Jo螔 Che on Saturday, April 12, 2008

Wenger has come for a lot of criticism about the size of the Arsenal squad now that the title race is out of our hands and we're out of Europe. It is a question I have been mulling over for a few months now, even when we were doing okay.

There is quite a reliable or decent short term back-up for every position apart from left back. Apart from central midfield and central defence, it is not cost effective to buy experienced cover for every position (unless you are Chelsea and have money to throw around). That is why most teams cannot cover for multiple injuries in the same area like Arsenal have had with van Persie, Eduardo and Rosicky.

I have come to the conclusion that the squad is not too small. This is the biggest squad I can remember for 11 years. In my view, the problem is that Arsenal lacks quality in attack and that's it.

Arsenal's defensive problems are exaggerated by the failure of the attack to score goals when they have chances or to score goals at crucial times.

I wrote an article here called "Adebayor benefits from Schevchenko effect at Arsenal". Many people wrote to say Eduardo was not the same as Schevchenko. That was not the point.

The point was that Eduardo moves in the box in such distracting and clever ways for defenders like Scheva that it allowed Adebayor to score more just like it did for Drogba. It allowed Adebayor to get the kind of chances that he could not miss.

Nobody missed Rosicky or van Persie a lot when they were injured because Eduardo could cover and Adebayor could score. When Eduardo's leg was broken, all of a sudden it became painfully clear just how multiple injuries in the same area can affect a team. Adebayor stopped scoring and we had all kinds of issues with getting width into the team.

This Arsenal team has a poor attacking force. Partly due to multiple long term injuries ?i.e. no partnerships have been able to form and partly because the attack doesn't get the best out of the midfield.

When Thierry Henry was at Arsenal or indeed when any good striker is in a team, you start noticing that everyone tries to find them even when they are in impossible situations. This is because strikers train their midfielders.

If a striker makes a good run whenever a midfielder has the ball, they will learn to pass to him immediately and quickly and even blindly in assumption that he is making the run. Robert P甏es and Dennis Bergkamp used to pass the ball where they knew someone would be without even looking because P甏es, Freddie Ljungberg, Patrick Vieira and Henry were all making runs.

Arsenal's new strikers run into midfield instead. It has made Alexander Hleb, Mathieu Flamini and Francesc Fabregas poorer at killer passes. The new strikers have trained the midfield to be bad at making decisive passing.

The direct effect is that Adebayor has to rely a lot on his touch in crowded areas (something he is not good at) and the second effect is that the midfielders cannot see those players like Nicklas Bendtner and Eduardo when they do make good runs.

In fact Hleb hardly looks up further than 10 yards when he has the ball. Everyone who gets the ball hardly has the chance to create anything with it because it tends to arrive a little late and therefore in a crowded area. Theo Walcott created an easy chance in a non-crowded area at Anfield. That was a collectors' item this season, not only because of the play but because it was nearly unprecedented to see so many Arsenal players in space.

If Arsenal's attack was as efficient as Manchester United, Chelsea or Liverpool's in terms of chances to goal ratio, we would be miles ahead.

There are 2 things you need from each player. First is that they know what to do in each situation ?i.e. they can make a good decision in each situation ?and secondly that they have the courage and quality to execute that decision. If one measures Arsenal players on these two key characteristics, we don't come out so bad but we are not as good as the competition.

Fabregas, Ga螔 Clichy, Flamini, Bacary Sagna, William Gallas, Rosicky, Eduardo, Bendtner, Denilson and Walcott are the only players in my view who know what to do and have the quality to do it (or at least they always try to do what is right rather than bottle it). Problem is that 3 of them are not in the first team, another 2 have been out for a long time, none of the rest are forwards and Arsenal went into these crucial games with only 2.5 of them since Flamini limped off at Anfield.

These players above are the kinds of players you want in your team. They are the players you want in big matches. They are more direct, will try to do the right thing every time, even if it fails but they will not fail more than they succeed because they have quality. Torres could have passed the ball out of the situation surrounded by 3 Arsenal players but he decided to make the keeper work. It was the right thing to do; he knew it could have been saved or deflected out but he did what was right.

Walcott could have easily tried to pass the ball sideways at Anfield because knew it was so tight he could lose it and cause a Liverpool counter-attack. But he knew we had to score, we had to go forward, it was the right thing to do so he went for it ?he took responsibility. He could have lost the ball but he did what was right.

You then have the players that have the quality to execute everything they want but don't seem to always know how to make the best decision (they never seem to do the right thing all the time). Hleb and van Persie fall into that category. Abou Diaby is here too but he will get out of this place and join the top group next season I hope.

When Hleb miscontrolled the ball in the final minutes of the Liverpool league game, people bemoaned the lost chance thinking Hleb would have scored had he controlled the ball better. Nonsense, he was never going to score.

He knew the best thing to do was shoot first time but he knew it could go to row Z or get deflected, he feared he would miss so he tried to control it and cut back (pass the buck to someone else) and that's why he lost it. He feared the right thing so he did the wrong thing.

Then finally there are those players who neither have enough quality to do all they want nor do they have the capability to make a good decision all the time. Adebayor, Ebou?and Gilberto suffer from both in severe quantities. Kolo Tour? Alexander Song and Philippe Senderos suffer more from one than the other and their inconsistencies are usually down to lapses of concentration than lack of skill.

If one is going to do well, a team needs to be drilled to make the right choices and follow them up. I don't believe Ashley Cole is better than Clichy (if Clichy played with P甏es and Henry ?he would do as good). I don't believe Lauren is better than Sagna. I don't think Vieira and Gilberto and so much better than Fabregas and Flamini. But what was different in the old team was that they all made good choices and had the courage to go for it. They made runs and their team mates looked for them. They never bottled it, they tried and failed sometimes. They did things early ?made up their minds early and went for it.

I have never requested a big money signing at Arsenal because I don't believe collecting players is what competition is about. Arsenal fans love the football the team plays and logic says that good football delivers results. We have to realise that this season, football has not really delivered results for us. Crucial goals have been scored from corners and scrambles to give us 2-1 or 1-0 wins. Basically, this season football has delivered us chances ?dozens of chances that have gone unexploited and graft has delivered narrow results.

This is not to say we should throw away football and turn into a Mourinho style team, what it tells us is that we should get the right players convert the chances so that we can deliver results from the way we want to play. Most of the players mentioned who have both key characteristics are still very young. Right now, they are just getting frustrated by the lack of reward for their work. We need to get someone to finish their work off.

I don't think it matters much that Arsenal are na鴳e at the back sometimes. That Senderos lost Hyppia and that Tour?forgot Babel or that Clichy made a bad pass at Birmingham. All of that is small stuff ?it happens to good defences.

It only becomes big and significant when we miss so many chances that we have to rely so heavily on clean sheets and a whole season of zero mistakes at the back ?that is unrealistic. Arsenal under Wenger is never going to be a clean sheets team just like United is not a clean sheets team. What Arsenal should be and the only way it works under Wenger is to be a high-scoring team.

We need some very serious forwards ?they invariably cost a lot but we can afford it. We need those to get us showcasing our football while supporting it with results and trophies. The money we lose by going out early in the Champions League, not winning the league and the effect it has on players like Fabregas is a lot more compared to the cost of a player like Eto'o or Torres. The annoying thing is that those players would probably prefer to play at Arsenal than Liverpool and their contribution would be much bigger at Arsenal because they would have twice as many chances to score.

Our squad is definitely not too small. But we need those players who are good at decisions and executions to be on the first team and we need the rest as squad players. Most importantly, we need to buy one or two deadly finishers no matter how boring they are. We can afford to have one boring player in an exciting team if it rewards our work. After all, most teams have 8 or more boring players.

So to Old Trafford Sunday. I don't know van Persie since he has been out for so long during his Arsenal career that I really cannot be sure how good he really is. Sagna is missing and Senderos can have a really good day or a very bad one.

When Flamini and Sagna are missing then we're as good as a mid-table team. Mid-table teams have beaten United this season but they cannot afford to let Chelsea catch them or start a downward run now with the Champions League semi-finals in sight so it will be tougher on Arsenal than ever. I would play Song instead of Gilberto; put Walcott and Bendtner on and let them go for it.

[ 本帖最後由 pinball 於 2009-1-27 20:00 編輯 ]
發表於 2008-4-13 19:59:29 | 顯示全部樓層
死對頭
今晚決一死戰
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 樓主| 發表於 2008-4-13 20:10:25 | 顯示全部樓層
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發表於 2008-4-13 20:25:19 | 顯示全部樓層
有2R未驚過
放馬過嚟
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發表於 2008-4-13 22:14:36 | 顯示全部樓層
雖然我係利物浦球迷
但係我都好欣賞阿仙奴同雲加
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發表於 2008-4-14 13:30:28 | 顯示全部樓層
大炮唔打爤仔波真無乜引
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發表於 2008-4-15 05:03:29 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 ANDY1860 於 2008-4-13 20:25 發表
有2R未驚過
放馬過嚟


贏左
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 樓主| 發表於 2008-4-15 12:48:01 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 ANDY1860 於 2008-4-13 20:25 發表
有2R未驚過
放馬過嚟

放左啦, 加拿斯放埋水添
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 樓主| 發表於 2008-4-15 12:48:51 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 大簡生 於 2008-4-15 05:03 發表


贏左

叻啦
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 樓主| 發表於 2008-4-15 12:51:57 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 yamamoto 於 2008-4-13 22:14 發表
雖然我係利物浦球迷
但係我都好欣賞阿仙奴同雲加

遺憾地呢幾年仲係好睇唔好食,
已經有好多大炮球迷開始
質疑雲加 o既組班方針同領導能力
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 樓主| 發表於 2008-4-15 12:57:30 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 JC 君 於 2008-4-14 13:30 發表
大炮唔打爤仔波真無乜引

想睇爛仔波去摩士啦笨
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發表於 2008-4-15 12:59:47 | 顯示全部樓層
支持阿仙奴 ....
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發表於 2008-4-15 14:36:19 | 顯示全部樓層
suppprt阿仙奴,但是真有3年無贏得重要錦標。 有時踢華麗足球唔係唔好,不過有時太過過左火位。到禁區有机會唔射,白白浪費机會。 未來希望云加認真的想想去增兵, 達施華好番未必踢得番。 一個前鋒,2個中場是必要。
我覺得愛華頓 - 阿迪達是不錯的選擇,有小小皮利斯影子。 期望阿仙奴班小兵成熟有更進步的表現。
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發表於 2008-4-15 14:41:13 | 顯示全部樓層
法比加斯與曼聯前鋒朗尼交換球衣後,被傳媒拍到把朗尼的球衣「不小心」地跌在球場上,而且並無拾回球衣便離開球場,侮辱對手。

以小見大,呢d 作風 咪解釋左點解 阿仙奴成日都比其他球迷話 law~~

都未計 法比加斯掟老費 pizza~ 打爛車仔更衣室塊鏡.................etc...
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發表於 2008-4-15 14:43:38 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 pinball 於 2008-4-15 12:51 發表

遺憾地呢幾年仲係好睇唔好食,
已經有好多大炮球迷開始
質疑雲加 o既組班方針同領導能力


雲格加人同青訓甚至改造球員一定係頂級 ~~~ 但佢帶波好似唔識留力,場場都係出果d 人~ 亨利年代D 人已經成日話太 Tire~~ 季尾d人傷哂,唔係不幸,係頂唔順~~~~
其實1早應該比 施華踢多D ,唔使其他人咁 tire~ 而且又唔使施華無哂信心 好似e家咁
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發表於 2008-4-15 15:08:09 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 大簡生 於 2008-4-15 14:43 發表


雲格加人同青訓甚至改造球員一定係頂級 ~~~ 但佢帶波好似唔識留力,場場都係出果d 人~ 亨利年代D 人已經成日話太 Tire~~ 季尾d人傷哂,唔係不幸,係頂唔順~~~~
其實1早應該比 施華踢多D ,唔使其他人咁 tire~ 而且又唔使 ...

唔同意, 施華的速度和班小兵格格不入。 現在施華踢中形班可以, AC米蘭可能适合。
法明尼是今年阿記最大發現和未來重要資產。

如你以上講, 廢SIR應該比多D出場机會給廢查和沙夏
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發表於 2008-4-15 15:19:42 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 大簡生 於 2008-4-15 14:41 發表
法比加斯與曼聯前鋒朗尼交換球衣後,被傳媒拍到把朗尼的球衣「不小心」地跌在球場上,而且並無拾回球衣便離開球場,侮辱對手。

以小見大,呢d 作風 咪解釋左點解 阿仙奴成日都比其他球迷話 law~~

都未計 法比加斯掟老費 pi ...

不如一齊將拿尼贏波玩人, C7跌倒動作過激(插水), 廢SIR輸波投訴球証判決不公平計算在內
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發表於 2008-4-16 01:50:21 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Tommy232 於 2008-4-15 15:08 發表

唔同意, 施華的速度和班小兵格格不入。 現在施華踢中形班可以, AC米蘭可能适合。
法明尼是今年阿記最大發現和未來重要資產。

如你以上講, 廢SIR應該比多D出場机會給廢查和沙夏 ...


你可能無睇曼聯波, 費查同沙夏,費sir 都好鍾意用,只係佢地 e家傷左~
無人話大波出施華~ 不過對 D 聯賽弱d 球隊 可以出下 施華,比其他球員休息下
7日內3 戰 利物浦, 你睇下 2隊 3場用人方針,你就睇到雲格唔識變通,變陣,留力,替換
scholes 同 giggs 都同 nani, anderson C ron 速度格格不入,但只要靈活運用,家有1老 如有1寶
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原帖由 Tommy232 於 2008-4-15 15:19 發表

不如一齊將拿尼贏波玩人, C7跌倒動作過激(插水), 廢SIR輸波投訴球証判決不公平計算在內


拿尼贏波插花,你有權搶佢波,技不如人就話人地玩你,你贏打比郡,唔通人地又話你點解要入咁多球?
如果話c 朗係贏波輸風度,咁法比加斯就係輸波再輸風度
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發表於 2008-4-16 02:17:20 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 Tommy232 於 2008-4-15 15:19 發表

不如一齊將拿尼贏波玩人, C7跌倒動作過激(插水), 廢SIR輸波投訴球証判決不公平計算在內


雲格又何嘗無投訴過球証oY~
20隊 領隊都投訴過球証啦.....
不過輸波 打爛人地更衣室,掟人地領隊,換完波衫 留o係地下,侮辱人,呢d 就唔係 20隊 ge 人都有做喇
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